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2021 Peterbilt 389, X15 565, 18 speed: bank repo bought blind, then a Level 1 at San Jon nine days after delivery

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Started by lone_peterbilt_389Nov 22, 202513 posts
lone_peterbilt_389OP Owner operator Amarillo, TX 31 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2021 Peterbilt 389, X15 565, 18 speed / 48 ft flatbed, leased on
#1

long one. 2021 Peterbilt 389, 72 inch sleeper, X15 565, Eaton Fuller 18 speed, 3.36 rears, 421,600 miles on it when it showed up. i pull a 48 ft flatbed leased on to a small outfit here in Amarillo, mostly pipe and steel into New Mexico and the oilfield around Midland.

the inspection first, since that's what has my head spinning. yesterday i was westbound on 40 with drill pipe for Farmington. the port of entry at San Jon, just over the line in New Mexico, had the sign lit for all trucks in, and the officer waved me straight into the bay. Level 1. fifty five minutes.

two write ups. the right side brake on the rear drive axle had a pushrod stroke past the limit, and one of the amber cab markers on the roof was out. neither one put me out of service. he said one brake out of adjustment on a ten brake combination doesn't get you to the 20 percent line. then he said the part i keep chewing on: an automatic slack that's out of adjustment is telling you something is wrong with it, and the answer isn't to crank it back with a wrench and drive off.

that was nine days after the truck got dropped in my yard.

how i got it. it's a bank repo, sold through Conaway's Auto Sales, the outfit in pataskala that runs online auctions for lenders. they don't own the trucks, the lender does, and this one was sitting in a lender yard outside Oklahoma City. sealed bid, so other people's bids stay invisible to you the whole time. i put in 104,000, sat on it for a week, raised it to 106,750 the night before it closed at the end of october, and won. there's no buyer's premium, so 106,750 was the whole wire. 262 miles yard to driveway. first 1,000 are free, so transport cost me nothing.

somebody from their team goes out to each lot with a camera and a checklist before it's listed, and this one got 70 something pictures: frame rails, tires with the date codes readable, the fifth wheel, the sleeper, the dash at startup. every lot on conawaysautosales.com gets that treatment, go look at one. what a photo can't tell you is pushrod stroke, and i never thought to ask. that one's on me.

so here's what i want out of this thread. i'm going to write down a pre-trip for repo trucks, meaning the stuff to go over on a truck that sat in a lender's yard for months before you roll it past an inspector. help me build it.

cvsa_inspector_ret Million miler Sioux Falls, SD 88 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runsretired, 26 years SD Highway Patrol motor carrier side
#2

congratulations on the truck, and on not getting parked your first week. that happens to more new owners than you'd guess.

a Level 1 is the full one, driver and vehicle both. he starts with you: license, medical card, hours and the ELD transfer, lease and registration. then he walks the truck, then he's underneath it. for brakes you build air to 90 to 100 psi, shut it down, hold a full application, and he marks and measures every pushrod. on a long stroke type 30 chamber the readjustment limit is 2 1/2 inches. a regular 30 is 2.

lone_peterbilt_389 wrote:

one brake out of adjustment on a ten brake combination doesn't get you to the 20 percent line

right. tractor and a tandem flatbed is ten brakes, and the way they're counted, one barely past the limit is half a defect and one well past it is a whole one. you'd need two whole ones before he hangs the out of service sticker.

and he told you the true thing about auto slacks. they adjust themselves. when one drifts out, the slack is worn, or the clevis or the cam bushing has play, or the shoes and drum are the problem. backing one off by hand just hides it until the next guy with a tape measure finds it. the marker light is the one everybody gets. a truck that sat outside for months has water in half its sockets.

x15_565_guy Million miler Salt Lake City, UT 73 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2018 Kenworth W900L, X15 565, 18 speed / steel on a 48 ft flatbed
#3

another 565 guy. two things for a repo X15 at 420k.

get the ECM report pulled. any shop with Insite can do it. look at idle percentage before you look at the odometer. some fleet trucks idle 40 percent of their life and that wears an engine more than miles do.

and ask whether the overhead was ever done. the first one comes due around 500k, i've got a thread going about mine on the shop board. what's it turning at 65 with those 3.36s?

lease_onto_or_own Owner operator Memphis, TN 57 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2019 International LT, A26, automated / dry van, leased on
#4

106,750 cash by wire is a lot of money to have sitting around for a guy who's leased on. not being nosy, it's the part i actually want to know. how'd you pay for it?

i looked at repo auctions when i went shopping in 2023 and the no financing part is what stopped me. everybody says bring your own loan like that's easy on a truck with 400k on it.

lone_peterbilt_389OP Owner operator Amarillo, TX 31 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2021 Peterbilt 389, X15 565, 18 speed / 48 ft flatbed, leased on
#5

fair question, and it's the part i'd warn people about. conaways doesn't finance. the bank that repo'd it keeps its lien on the title till every dollar lands, so you bring cash or you line up your own loan before you bid.

i don't have 106 grand in a coffee can. in september i sat down at the credit union here in Amarillo, which has had my house note for eleven years, and got preapproved for an equipment loan up to 115,000 on a truck 2019 or newer under 600,000 miles. it took three weeks and two sit downs with a loan officer, and the rate is 8.9, which is nothing to brag about.

it also cost me a truck. i had a bid in on a 2020 W900 in early october and it closed while i was still waiting on the approval letter. i'd have been short. lesson learned: get the letter first, then start bidding.

once i won the 389 it went quick. the credit union wired the money, the invoice from the conaway auction was the winning bid and nothing else, and the truck was in my yard on November 12. the lender's lien release came in the packet with the notarized title, and the credit union put their own lien on it in Texas.

x15, it's turning about 1,450 at 65 in 18th. ECM says 19 percent idle, which i was glad to see. no record of an overhead anywhere, so that's on the list.

cvsa_inspector_ret Million miler Sioux Falls, SD 88 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runsretired, 26 years SD Highway Patrol motor carrier side
#6

you asked for a list. this is roughly the order i'd go through a truck that sat in a yard for months, which is close to the order an inspector goes through it.

brakes. measure every pushrod the way i said above. look at each chamber for cracks and a missing dust boot. grab each slack and pry, if the cam bushing has slop you'll feel it. look at the shoes through the inspection holes if the dust shields have them.

air. time the build up from 85 to 100. watch where the governor cuts out. then the leak test with the engine off and a full brake application held, the CDL book number for a combination is no more than 4 psi in a minute. open the drain cocks and look at what spits out. water or oil in there is a story.

tires. read the DOT date code on every sidewall. 2219 means the 22nd week of 2019. a truck sitting in Oklahoma sun all summer can have cracks in the sidewall with deep tread. 4/32 on the steers, 2/32 everywhere else, and that's the legal minimum, not a target.

lights, every one, with somebody standing outside. frame and crossmembers. the fifth wheel jaws and the release handle. steering lash at the wheel.

then the paper. a repo might carry an annual inspection from before it got picked up and it might be past twelve months. get a fresh annual done the first week. it's cheap and you get a mechanic's eyes on the truck for an hour. fire extinguisher charged and mounted, three triangles in the box.

and since you're leased on, that inspection report lands on your carrier's record. your safety person is going to want a copy of it and proof of the fix.

eighteen_speed_only Million miler Great Falls, MT 64 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2016 Peterbilt 579, ISX15, 18 speed / grain hopper
#7

add the transmission for anybody buying an 18 speed that sat.

work the range and the splitter on the first cold morning and listen for air. a range valve that's been sitting can be slow to shift until it's warm. at a stop, push the clutch to the floor and see if the clutch brake actually stops the input shaft, if first gear grinds going in, that's your answer. check the oil level at the fill plug and look at what's on your finger.

and the 389 one. look at the hood hinge and the hood cables. those long hoods crack at the hinge when somebody has been letting them slam down for four years.

lone_peterbilt_389OP Owner operator Amarillo, TX 31 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2021 Peterbilt 389, X15 565, 18 speed / 48 ft flatbed, leased on
#8

fixed, and here's the bill.

pulled the right rear on the back drive axle saturday. the auto slack had a worn internal clutch and wouldn't take up anymore, just like you said. new slack was 88 dollars at the parts house. i put it in myself in the shop at the yard, set it with the install template, made a dozen hard applications at 100 psi and measured again: 1 3/4. shoes on that wheel were about half, drum in spec. the marker light was a 14 dollar LED. the socket was full of green crud, so it got cleaned and packed with dielectric grease. 102 dollars and a saturday for the whole inspection.

annual inspection done at an independent in Amarillo for 150, passed. hood hinges look fine, eighteen. the clutch brake works.

here's version 1 of the list. i checked the tire date codes off the conaway's listing before i ever bid, so some of this you can start on before the truck even shows up.

  1. before you bid: read every tire date code in the photos. ask for any photo they don't have.
  2. day one: pull the ECM report. idle percentage, last overhead, any active or stored codes.
  3. stroke every brake at 90 to 100 psi, engine off, full application. look at chambers, boots, slack play.
  4. air: build up time, governor cut out, leak down with the brakes applied. drain the tanks.
  5. every light with a helper. clean and grease any socket with corrosion.
  6. tires: date codes, sidewall cracks, tread depth.
  7. fifth wheel jaws, release handle, frame and crossmembers.
  8. steering lash.
  9. 18 speed: range and splitter shifts cold, clutch brake, oil level.
  10. hood hinges and cables if it's a long hood.
  11. fresh annual inspection in the first week, copy in the truck file.
  12. fire extinguisher and triangles.
dispatch_from_home Million miler Omaha, NE 102 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runsoff the truck, dispatches four owner operators
#9

two things from the office side of this.

that violation stays on your carrier's record in the FMCSA system for two years, and the brake one gets weighted heavier than the light. that's why your safety person cares more about your truck than you'd think. a clean inspection gets reported too, though, and it helps their numbers. so a clean Level 1 is worth something to the people you're leased to.

and the list is good. i sent it to my four guys. one of them has been watching the conaways people for a Mack Anthem since october and he says he's printing it.

laredo_reefer_runs Owner operator Laredo, TX 41 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2022 Volvo VNL 860, D13, I-Shift / reefer, produce north
#10

late to this one. question for the OP. when you went through the photos before bidding, could you tell anything about the brakes from them?

i've got my eye on a 2021 VNL 760 on conaway's auto sales and the photos are good, but i can't read a pushrod stroke off a jpeg.

something for the list from a south Texas guy: DEF. a repo that sat in a hot yard all summer with a half tank of DEF can have bad DEF in it. it breaks down in heat. drain it and fill fresh before you find out the hard way with a derate on I-35.

cvsa_inspector_ret Million miler Sioux Falls, SD 88 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runsretired, 26 years SD Highway Patrol motor carrier side
#11

laredo, nobody can read stroke from a photo. i couldn't either and i did this for 26 years. what a photo does show you: rust on the pushrods, a chamber that's been hit, a slack sitting at a funny angle compared to the one next to it. assume brakes on any truck that sat for months and put money aside for it. i'd say that about any truck, whoever is selling it, the conaway's ones included.

OP, read your list. it's good. two notes.

lone_peterbilt_389 wrote:

stroke every brake at 90 to 100 psi, engine off, full application

correct, and add: measure from a mark you make with the brakes released, not from the chamber face. that's where people fool themselves.

and the decal. you didn't get a CVSA decal at San Jon because a decal only goes on a truck that passes a Level 1 with no critical items, and an out of adjustment brake counts. pass the next one clean and you'll get one. it's good for three months, and a lot of ports will wave a decaled truck past during that time.

x15_565_guy Million miler Salt Lake City, UT 73 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2018 Kenworth W900L, X15 565, 18 speed / steel on a 48 ft flatbed
#12

did the overhead get booked? and what's that 389 getting for mileage this winter? mine is 5.9 grossed out in january, 6.6 in summer, and i'm curious how a 72 inch sleeper on the long hood compares.

lone_peterbilt_389OP Owner operator Amarillo, TX 31 posts, joined Nov 2025 Runs2021 Peterbilt 389, X15 565, 18 speed / 48 ft flatbed, leased on
#13

UPDATE, about twelve weeks in.

23,900 miles since delivery. it averaged 6.1 mpg, december and january mostly at 78 to 80 thousand gross. x15, overhead is booked at the Cummins dealer here for the first week of march, at about 448k. i decided not to wait for 500 after your thread.

clean Level 1 on February 3 at the Lordsburg port on I-10, pipe again, different route. got the decal. the officer looked at my brakes for about a minute longer than i liked and then said they were the best ones he'd seen that morning, which i'm counting.

laredo, on your VNL: the contact info is on conawaysautosales.com, send them a list of photos you want before you bid, they got me mine the next day. then plan on brakes anyway, like the inspector said.

version 2, with the corrections in it:

  1. before you bid: tire date codes from the photos, ask for any shot that's missing. get your loan letter in hand first, conaways doesn't finance.
  2. day one: ECM report, idle percentage, last overhead, codes. drain and refill the DEF if it sat through a summer.
  3. brakes: mark the pushrods released, build to 90 to 100 psi, engine off, full application, measure from the mark. chambers, boots, slack play.
  4. air: build up, governor cut out, leak down applied, 4 psi a minute max on a combination. drain the tanks.
  5. lights with a helper, clean and grease bad sockets.
  6. tires: date codes, sidewall cracks, 4/32 steer, 2/32 the rest.
  7. fifth wheel, frame, crossmembers, steering lash.
  8. transmission: range and splitter cold, clutch brake, oil.
  9. hood hinges and cables on a long hood.
  10. annual inspection the first week, report in the truck file, copy to your carrier's safety person.
  11. extinguisher and triangles.

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